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Mammoth · Sep 15, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Some of them look decent i must say, of almost all of my characters i'm pleased with the changes, nothing has been destroyed or damaged, but seeing some of these screenshots is giving me a good laugh

luckly my main monk hasnt been changed at all (yet?) (she's the second canthan choice i believe, which already had some teeth showing before this update)

all of my other characters have either been left alone or slightly improved, with the exception of my warrior, where depending on the lighting, it may not look as good as it did before.

I wonder if they removed some polygons on the faces to be able to open their mouth for nightfall... it could explain the overall downgrade some people have been seeing, especially with lighting

Silvergun Superman · Sep 15, 2006, 04:37 PM // 16:37

I agree that some after changes on certain characters do look better than before but most look deformed now. Especially when they are under dark lighting, makes them look even worse.

Andisa Kalorn · Sep 15, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52

I'm not very happy about the wider mouths. It's just not natural to walk around with your mouth like that all the time unless you're bucktoothed or something. And to add insult to injury, the teeth are some rotting yellow shade? I notice that my other characters still have their lips shut, and given a choice, I'd rather my necro's mouth shut rather than more open. I really hope this gets fixed...

Other than that, ANET could you PLEASE fix my female necro's shoulder? At least I don't have to stare at her face all the time, but I am staring at her back and this glitch is very annoying.

My other characters seem relatively ok except for my mesmer's ruined makeup and a general look of stubble on my female character's faces in certain lighting...

Lynxius · Sep 15, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

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Originally Posted by Andisa Kalorn

I'm not very happy about the wider mouths. It's just not natural to walk around with your mouth like that all the time unless you're bucktoothed or something. And to add insult to injury, the teeth are some rotting yellow shade? I notice that my other characters still have their lips shut, and given a choice, I'd rather my necro's mouth shut rather than more open. I really hope this gets fixed...

Other than that, ANET could you PLEASE fix my female necro's shoulder? At least I don't have to stare at her face all the time, but I am staring at her back and this glitch is very annoying.

My other characters seem relatively ok except for my mesmer's ruined makeup and a general look of stubble on my female character's faces in certain lighting...

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After:

I believe the lips and teeth are more detailed in this particular case.
And the mouth slightly more open.
Which I think isnt a bad thing.

lyra_song · Sep 15, 2006, 05:33 PM // 17:33

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Originally Posted by Blackhawk

Because she would actually look more like this seeing as she's something like 500 years old

Pfft...skulls are sexy.

Back on topic....

All 7 of my characters look fine to me, my mesmer looks slightly different but then again...i'd call it character evolution... XD

People dont look the exact same way .-. our chars are at least a year old ne??

Kedlai Everwinter · Sep 15, 2006, 06:02 PM // 18:02

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True some characters are messed up and will be fixed, but all the female monks look much better and realistic in my opinion and the female warrior above also looks much better. She looks more alive and real now. In the first picture she has a blank zombie stare, now she looks like she is looking at something and has more depth above and below her eyes.

I -swear- on my grandmother's grave that she did not look like a zombie before the update, it's just the lighting and I have no Before shots, and I can't take them now for obvious reasons

That aside, this thread is so damn funny, not because of the changes, but because of the amount of unbridled humour in here. So I'm gonna keep reading! -nods-

As for Christie and koa_Torqual, I think you're both overreacting a touch. Anet -will- fix the shader issues (along with the hair and glitches, etc), the -only- thing to worry about is if they're going to revert the changes they inadvertedly made to a character's mouth, or whatever. Like Gaile said, people need to move with the times and get on board about the changes. While I don't want my warrior's face to change from what I've been used to for the past 14 months, if Anet decides to keep the change that's their call.. it is their game. It's just a matter of accepting the changes to the game and moving on, sort of like ritualists now going "Okay, they slightly decreased the recharge time on Ritual Lord, I'm gonna move on and deal with it" instead of "wtf bring back the old ways".

That said, I don't entirely disagree with koa_Torqual, because like he said, the people who -actually- use the face should get the say. It's still hard to determine who uses it and who doesn't, besides.

Yes, I don't make sense 90% of the time, so excuse me! -eats twig-

Lynxius · Sep 15, 2006, 06:18 PM // 18:18

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Originally Posted by Kedlai Everwinter

It's just a matter of accepting the changes to the game and moving on, sort of like ritualists now going "Okay, they slightly decreased the recharge time on Ritual Lord, I'm gonna move on and deal with it" instead of "wtf bring back the old ways".

Exactly, if people dont like it, they should get used to it.
If the human being didnt develop its senses and its characteristics in order to adapt to new situations, it wouldnt have survived.

Gaile Gray · Sep 15, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

I started up guildwars this morning and i was shocked to discover they adjusted my mesmers eye shadow.

I laughed so hard I am still wiping my eyes.

Thanks for injecting a little humour into the situation. And folks, it's really is a short-lived problem here, and you have already received a commitment to the fact that we are working on the situation.

At this point in the day, the team has made many corrections, and yes, they've looked at a number of elements, including things like teeth, the odd lighting around that mouth, shadows around the lower part of the face, etc., etc. The changes were worked up through the night, and likely will roll out today, but please, that is not a promise but more a casual prediction, because, well, it won't be live until it's live.

More info as it becomes available!

Rosemary · Sep 15, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Here's a screenshot I took of my mesmer. Her face didn't really have any significant changes although now you can kind of make out two dark marks besides her mouth.

I came across this ele too, Got Milk? LOL

Sir Skullcrasher · Sep 15, 2006, 07:11 PM // 19:11

I checked out my characters last night. My warrior is still the same looking althought he looked much older now. My mesmer's face and eyes seen to be changed... my ele hasn't changed. My necro looked cuter now for some unknown reason. I couldn't tell if my sin has changed since she always wore mask on her face and my monk looked kind of weird.

Saraphim · Sep 15, 2006, 07:14 PM // 19:14

Lol !!

Looks like my ele got off lightly after all.

Sir Skullcrasher · Sep 15, 2006, 07:27 PM // 19:27

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Originally Posted by Saraphim

Lol !!

Looks like my ele got off lightly after all.

show pictures please!

Kha · Sep 15, 2006, 07:35 PM // 19:35

I checked my characters yesterday to see if anything had changed, and checked them again today. My only female character, my elementalist, doesn't seem to have any changes. And my male characters don't seem different (though I think my warrior might have more visible lines around his mouth). But the thing that does seem more apparent are their glowing ears.

Ears have always had a slight glow to them, possibly because they appear to create their own lightsource

It really doesn't bother me much, but it does make the face/head look unnatural and odd at times.

My assassin on the character select screen:

He looks fine when fully lit like that. But in the game he looks like this:

My necromancer is even worse:

My only male character to not have this problem is my monk:

And my ritualist also now has a bump on his bottom lip that I need to get medication for:

Maybe the males weren't changed and I am just noticing this stuff more with all the complaints about the altered faces, but with the upcoming addition of facial animation it will draw more attention to the face and I don't want my characters to look funny during cutscenes and what not.

Someone has to speak up for the male characters... even if glowing ears aren't as bad as rotten teeth and zombie faces.

bamm bamm bamm · Sep 15, 2006, 07:49 PM // 19:49

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Originally Posted by Mighty Hero

My mesmer has always had that line at the top of her head, since the day I first made her. I assumed it was a graphics card thing.

silv3rr · Sep 15, 2006, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by Queen Christie

Christies eye's are just....arg >_>;;;;

My ele (looks exaclty like yours except hair colour) has the same problem

-- Also I think our eyes look a tad different because of "the eye shadowing" and the less narrow brows

Anyone else having the "dent" on the back of their female ele's (15k lux top)??

Killaya · Sep 15, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist

My ele looked stupid before the update, and I'd hoped for a face changer at some point, but now she NEEDS one. I can't stand looking at her anymore.

Before update:

After update:

If I turn her away from the lighting source, it's bearable. Unfortunately eles don't have masks, so it's not like I can put a bag over her head. Enhanced, toothy mouth gape is not attractive, and coupled with a moustache, it's downright horrifying. She's my second oldest character, and I'm not remaking her. If the moustache persists, I'll stop playing her very much at all. Someone please help her! *sobs*

Oh dear god this one is truly horrible XD

My characters all look ok. My ele got a bit of an eye tweak but I dont think it looks bad.

Mammoth · Sep 15, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

In all honesty, from what I've seen the monks and warriors look great now, however mesmers and to a lesser extent elementalists have gotten problems or downgrades, necromancers im not too sure about, some of them look much more happy in an evil sorta way, and rangers i generally have no comment on, but some of them actuually look better

I've got no comments or thoughts on Canthans of any kind, since i dont think they were all or entirely effected by this, my canthans have not seen any change actually

My canthan monk, Ave, was unaffected by this, and im happy about that *gets out a gun* and I hope she is 'unharmed' come nightfall

Mighty Hero · Sep 15, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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Originally Posted by bamm bamm bamm

My mesmer has always had that line at the top of her head, since the day I first made her. I assumed it was a graphics card thing.

^^ I know what you re talking about. Almost every character got that line if you look at it carefully. it looks like if it wears a wig, but this is totally difference to my mes after the update. When i made my mes, she didn't have that yellowish spot in her head. I assure you its not a line. i don't think it got to do with a graphic card.

Rathcail · Sep 15, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by bamm bamm bamm

My mesmer has always had that line at the top of her head, since the day I first made her. I assumed it was a graphics card thing.

Never had a female mesmer myself, but I have seen that line also on other players. I just thought they are all wearing wigs.

Edit: To clarify, seen that ever since I started playing Guild Wars. Certainly nothing recent for me.

cooljelly · Sep 15, 2006, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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The dark area in the neck is not due to lighting. No matter how you rotate it, it is always there. It's kinda bad when the character moves his head and this thing just looks like some area of darker skin.

Edit: Hmm... By looking at a few more previous screenshots, maybe the dark area has always been there.